- Male family heads always sit at the aisle seat. If his wife sits on the ailse seat, it could like she's trying to unsurp his headship.
Muddy Waters
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Weird stuff that only an exJW would know
by biblecheck ini was thinking tonight about all the wierd stuff that i viewed as totally normal being brought up as a jw.... here's my list.... - eating broken easter eggs after easter was not a sin.
- your car always had to be clean in time for the co visit.
- being assigned to the car park at a convention, with a walkie talkie, meant you had powerful connections.. - the amount of lines and hand writing on your sunday watchtower, spoke volumes of your spirituality.
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Was the Watchtower Right?
by Christ Alone inthis question is for atheists and believers.
what teachings do you think the watchtower got right and why?
do you still think they are right about the trinity?
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Muddy Waters
Things I presently believe the WTS got right:
- condition of the dead (they are dead/no immortal soul)
- no hell fire
- no trinity
- Muddy
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This must be true because nothing else fits
by biometrics inso elder x came over the other day to convince me about why jehovah's witnesses have 1914 correct.
i wrote about this some time ago, but the elder never returned.
he caught me off-guard, and unprepared.. he went through the reasoning book (p95), and pointed out all the reaons (day for a year, daniel, 360 days, 2520 ...).
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Muddy Waters
Am enjoying all this talk about muddy waters.... oh wait... y'all weren't talking about me...
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Why are there 3 versions of the Watchtower
by perfect1 incan someone explain to me the purpose of printing 3 different versions of the watchtower.
in my day there was one.
who are they meant for..
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Muddy Waters
The "simplified" edition is ALSO for college graduates and university-level-speaking people (who speak too "abstractedly") as EXAMPLES for how to talk more conversationally. Because of course anybody with higher education can't speak normally or conversationally.... I forget which latest magazine had a "quote" about this.
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How did you feel when you first celebrated Halloween or Christmas
by trujw inwith the holidays amongsts us how did you feel the first time you celebrated the holidays?
the first time i felt like i was in north korea trying to slip pass the secret police.
how weird a wonderful family holiday and i was acting like i just stole the mona lisa..
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Muddy Waters
I'm still trying to figure out the holiday thing. I can finally *almost* get to thinking that birthdays aren't so evil.... (especially knowing that the bible character, Job, had children who celebrated their birthdays! Job, chapter 1, verse something...)
So I'm not at that point yet... only had my "blinkers" fall off about a year ago. And yes, I've read and researched almost everybook that's been recommended here and on other sites, lol.
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Why No Disfellowshipping Before 1952?
by blondie inwhy was there no official arrangement before 1952 to disfellowship people?
was there a different procedure with a different name?
was no one committing disfellowshipping offenses?
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Muddy Waters
I hope someone can post a link or photo of the January 8, 1947 Awake.... there's an article titled, "Are You Also Excommunicated?"
I have a jpg of the article, but don't know how to post it...
Some gems from this *jewel* of an older publication:
"... excommunication, as a punishment... finds no support in these scriptures. In fact, it is altogether foreign to Bible teachings..."
"... papal excommunication is not without pagan influence..."
"... as the pretensions of the Hierarchy increased, the weapon of excommunication became the instrument by which the clergy attained a combination of ecclesiastical power and secular tyranny that finds no parallel in history..."
I hope someone can find this and post it somehow.
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Giving to charities
by XBEHERE inwhen you were active jws did you ever give to charities?
anyone else you know in the cong.
as for me, i do give on occasion and when i am able to.
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Muddy Waters
*gasp*
Giving to charities?? As in worldy charities run by worldy people for worldly problems??
My goodness, NO! Never, never, never. After all, the *only* thing people need is WT literature! Why would/should they need or require anything else??The "preaching" work (knocking on empty homes) is the most important work that could ever be done on the earth today. Why waste time, money, energy, etc. on such frivolous things like trying to help people in a physical way? Why try to feed or shelter people who are going to be killed off soon (any day now!) anyway?
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Light a Candle for Oompa
by BabaYaga inthere is a lovely site where one may light a candle for a moment of silence.. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles.
i set up a group, where they may all flicker together, if you like.. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=oompa.
(we love and miss you, oompa.).
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SAD news about OOMPA......
by redredrose inour friend, oompa, has passed away.
just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.
it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.
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to date JWism has defined my life and i hate that TRUTH
by oompa inand i am finding the adjustment to the real world far more difficult than i ever imagined...i f...it has been about five years since i totally woke up to the fraudulant nwt and then all my other doubts i had carried for years were proved true as well.
but almost all of my few friends are exjw or slack jw's and i feel so isolated...my sons friends are mostly exjw too but not their gf's and they have way more normal friends .
how have you done at replacing lifelong friends and family?
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Muddy Waters
I can't help but wonder if his death will shock them into realizing the truth about this "religion".... wouldn't that be something if his ultimate sacrifice from so much pain could be the thing to make them wake the f*ck up.
But then they'd have to live with that pain and knowledge.... you know what, it's just totally f'd up in every way. :(